Nintendo Switch; Why I Don’t Care

Opinions, eh. We’re all entitled to them – but nobody particularly wants to read them. Well, sadly, this is exactly what you’ll be reading in this article. My opinion on the Nintendo Switch. So if you don’t like it, good. It means that your opinion is different to mine, and variety is the spice of life. Or some shit.

Quite a few people have asked me if I’ve seen the Nintendo Switch reveal. I have. They also ask me what I think of the console, from these early teases. The truth is, I don’t care. I appreciate that it looks like an impressive bit of tech. I understand that Nintendo is trying to change the way we play – by merging their flagging console market with their strong handheld. But, at the end of the day, it really doesn’t bother me.

I have nothing against those people who do care. You do you, buddy. But for me, the console doesn’t hit any of the right buttons. I don’t really play handheld games, (other than Pokémon on my retro AF Gameboy), so the only draw for me would be Nintendo’s IPs. And, whilst I enjoy the occasional Mario or Zelda game – I’m not bothered enough to warrant spending a few hundred quid just to play those titles. I’m sure a counter point would be that bigger developers are going to be making games for the console too. A Skyrim port you say?! I can play Skyrim on my Xbox One. And it’ll be more powerful. The graphics will be better. And I already have that console.

The Switch is clearly designed for the casual gamer. I mean, that’s been Nintendo’s USP for years. They create experiences that are more accessible to a younger family audience. That’s exactly what the Wii is. And it’s exactly what the WiiU ended up being (despite them telling us otherwise on launch). By combining handheld capabilities with a classic console experience – Nintendo are trying to appeal to the average gamer, but I wouldn’t include hardcore gamers. This might or might not work, it’s too early to tell. One thing’s for sure, though. If I had to choose between playing FIFA 17 or Battlefield 1 or Skyrim on a PS4 / Xbox One or on a Switch, I’d choose the former.

But that’s my opinion. In truth, I’d like to be excited about the Nintendo Switch. I used to love Nintendo games, back in my N64 days. So maybe you feel differently? Feel free to try to convert me in the comments below!

  • heavenshitman1

    Totally understandable gist, but Nintendo’s not being utterly directionless with this idea.
    E.G., Just saw the Titanfall 2 review visually about as slick n smooth as it gets (perhaps not the most mind blowing graphical game). Ultimately, its another in a zillion online shooters.. i might get it.
    Perhaps with the Switch I could actually show my gaming off to my firends for a change (even if its visually lesser) and other ppl can play their PS4pro’s and Scorpios…alone on the net, huddled away in their bedrooms

    • Bilal Prince-Ali

      because the core gamer expects too.. im confused as to how comes these days being a traditional gamer is met with jeers and disdain even though gaming is more popular now than ever…
      It’s like when people try making ‘comic book nerd’ jokes even though Comic book movies are soo intertwined with pop culture and the most popular movies out.. it’s actually crazy.

      • Just to clarify that I have nothing against ‘casual’ gamers. In fairness, I’m a little disappointed that i used the term ‘casual gamers’ because in hindsight I feel that defining a gamer by how often they play or the types of games they play is a little unecessary.

        That being said, you can’t deny that, predominately, Nintendo’s recent consoles were the ones that families purchased to play together. The sort of consoles that sit gathering dust until you have some sort of gathering and everyone fancies a spot of Wii Bowling.

        • Bilal Prince-Ali

          very true.. That is undisputable lool.. but Nintendo have very intelligently tried to usher in a change of demographic.. i mean look at the Switch reveal trailer they’re clearly trying hard to win back their core gamer market that they haven’t really had in over 20 years.

          It can be argued that the GameCube had that demographic but it just wasn’t bought in large enough quantities.

    • DarthDiggler

      @heavenshitman1:disqus

      If my aunt had balls she’d be my uncle. 🙂 Nintendo as a brand has lost the core market in perpetuity. Why? Because they have been making kids games for so long. Nintendo didn’t lose the core market, they predated it and it was created by other brands such as PlayStation, Xbox and the Clone PC.

      Which were platforms that allowed developers a great deal more freedom. There were no controversies over the color of blood.

      Nintendo capturing the core audience would be like Disney producing Quintin Tarantino movies.

      In my opinion Nintendo not embracing the casual form-factor they have created with the Switch they are being utterly directionless and delusional thinking that fans of GTA V will gravitate to a tablet, even if it does have controllers.

      • Brian Tomczyk

        Clone PC? You do realize that consoles are the clones filled with advanced computer parts if it wasn’t for those computer parts you wouldn’t be playing Xbox Sony or Nintendo one thing is directionless here and that’s you for saying ClonePC if you take away AMD and Nvidia you aren’t playing a console

        • DarthDiggler

          @Brian Tomczyk

          Do you realize that you are going off on a tangent which has nothing to do with the subject matter of my comment nor this article?

          Let me take a moment to pick apart your completely forced comment.

          Clone PC?

          Yes the Clone PC allowed developers pretty much 100% freedom on how to develop their games which is the point I was trying to make. Perhaps you have over sensitive lady parts but there was no attempt by me to diminish the PC as a platform my comments were complimentary had you bothered to take the time to actually read them.

          You do realize that consoles are the clones filled with advanced computer parts if it wasn’t for those computer parts you wouldn’t be playing Xbox Sony or Nintendo

          You are wrong. The closest thing to a clone PC from Sony, MS or Nintendo would have been the original Xbox, that system had a discreet CPU and GPU but even that had many elements that were customized by Microsoft. You couldn’t quite emulate the Xbox with off the shelf parts. You could get close but not exactly the same kind of configuration.

          The newest systems from MS and Sony are the next closest to a PC with the Xbox One being closer than the PS4. Both systems rid the PC architecture of anything that isn’t germane to gaming while in my opinion PS4 takes it a step further by basically creating a video card with a CPU attached.

          They are very PC like and that is a good thing for PC players as it means that more PC games will come to console and deliver more revenues to talented PC developers and more console games will come to PC. Rising tides raise all boats my friend which is why I can never really understand PC Elitism. PC gamers benefit from new generations consoles.

          one thing is directionless here and that’s you for saying ClonePC if you take away AMD and Nvidia you aren’t playing a console

          Not 100% sure what you are saying here could you repeat it in English?

          If it wasn’t for consoles AMD would be in very bad shape.

      • heavenshitman1

        I don’t think Nintendo expects GTAV fans to gravitate towards their Switch. I think Nintendo is trying to get the mass 100’s of millions that’d never touch any of these heavy duty consoles to have a shot in gaming.
        Its a crowd that doesn’t concern to quibble over MSAA and texture levels.
        Nintendo is pathetic at marketing most the time, but if you knew their best franchises well. You’d know they make some great games for adults too (,games that actually require brain power to play)

        • DarthDiggler

          @heavenshitman1:disqus

          I never excluded the rest of the family, I should have said “family friendly” instead of kids.

          By and large the market they cater to is NOT the core market though. Are you suggesting the Nintendo Switch will turn the causal Wii-Mote gamers into Hard Core gamers that go to E-Sports competitions competing against other Switch Players?

    • Yeah I get the appeal. I’m a massive fan of multiplayer games, particularly co-op. But I really can’t see myself sitting down on that tiny screen at a park or in a field to play the Switch. If i want to play games with friends I’ll invite them over, and play there. I just don’t see it, really. but maybe that’s just me?

      • heavenshitman1

        Reasonable point, might be a small device, but I guess its an added option of play, with Nintendo handhelds being about as successful as any home console it can’t do too bad sales wise. And despite your notions on Skyrim, the games library should be pretty stellar with Switch assuming Nintendo focuses all its teams on it. It’d be the only ‘home’ based console system that would have Pokemons, F-Zeros, Golden Suns, Metroids, Zeldas, ‘Advanced Wars’ games, Xenoblades… and so on.
        Despite a lack of ultimate graphical fidelity, its the kinda software that should inspire (assuming that lineup happens).
        As I alluded in my first post here, despite 6+ TFLOPS of visual power, is anyone not just sick of Call of Duty yet??
        Or what about FIFA, must be about the 20th iteration of essentially the exact same sports game from probably decades ago

      • They showed a lot of multiplayer on the smaller screen but I think you are reading too much into that. Co-op on the bigger screen will still be as relevant as every and tbh, Nintendo have produced some of the best co-op games out there.

        I don’t see the small screen co-op being a game changed but think about all the crazy moments playing on a small screen back in the day. Someone brining this out with them & challenging someone to a Mario Kart race for 20 mins would be brilliant. Not a selling point for the console but a fantastically fun extra. I think they focused way too much of the video on it though.

        Let’s say as well you did want to have people over to play Halo for example. Right now you would need at least 2 xbox’s (for 4 player) or if everyone had the xbox then 4 xbox’s. With that you will also need 4 TV so that’s 8 power sockets plus the room that will take up. That would be amazing but a lot of effort. Or you all have a Switch & you are up and playing in about 5 mins with no effort. Now that sounds great to me.

  • heavenshitman1

    Totally understandable gist, but Nintendo’s not being utterly directionless with this idea.
    E.G., Just saw the Titanfall 2 review visually about as slick n smooth as it gets (perhaps not the most mind blowing graphical game). Ultimately, its another in a zillion online shooters.. i might get it.
    Perhaps with the Switch I could actually show my gaming off to my firends for a change (even if its visually lesser) and other ppl can play their PS4pro’s and Scorpios…alone on the net, huddled away in their bedrooms

    • Bilal Prince-Ali

      because the core gamer expects too.. im confused as to how comes these days being a traditional gamer is met with jeers and disdain even though gaming is more popular now than ever…
      It’s like when people try making ‘comic book nerd’ jokes even though Comic book movies are soo intertwined with pop culture and the most popular movies out.. it’s actually crazy.

      • Just to clarify that I have nothing against ‘casual’ gamers. In fairness, I’m a little disappointed that i used the term ‘casual gamers’ because in hindsight I feel that defining a gamer by how often they play or the types of games they play is a little unecessary.

        That being said, you can’t deny that, predominately, Nintendo’s recent consoles were the ones that families purchased to play together. The sort of consoles that sit gathering dust until you have some sort of gathering and everyone fancies a spot of Wii Bowling.

        • Bilal Prince-Ali

          very true.. That is undisputable lool.. but Nintendo have very intelligently tried to usher in a change of demographic.. i mean look at the Switch reveal trailer they’re clearly trying hard to win back their core gamer market that they haven’t really had in over 20 years.

          It can be argued that the GameCube had that demographic but it just wasn’t bought in large enough quantities.

    • DarthDiggler

      @heavenshitman1:disqus

      If my aunt had balls she’d be my uncle. 🙂 Nintendo as a brand has lost the core market in perpetuity. Why? Because they have been making kids games for so long. Nintendo didn’t lose the core market, they predated it and it was created by other brands such as PlayStation, Xbox and the Clone PC.

      Which were platforms that allowed developers a great deal more freedom. There were no controversies over the color of blood.

      Nintendo capturing the core audience would be like Disney producing Quintin Tarantino movies.

      In my opinion Nintendo not embracing the casual form-factor they have created with the Switch they are being utterly directionless and delusional thinking that fans of GTA V will gravitate to a tablet, even if it does have controllers.

      • Brian Tomczyk

        Clone PC? You do realize that consoles are the clones filled with advanced computer parts if it wasn’t for those computer parts you wouldn’t be playing Xbox Sony or Nintendo one thing is directionless here and that’s you for saying ClonePC if you take away AMD and Nvidia you aren’t playing a console

        • DarthDiggler

          @Brian Tomczyk

          Do you realize that you are going off on a tangent which has nothing to do with the subject matter of my comment nor this article?

          Let me take a moment to pick apart your completely forced comment.

          Clone PC?

          Yes the Clone PC allowed developers pretty much 100% freedom on how to develop their games which is the point I was trying to make. Perhaps you have over sensitive lady parts but there was no attempt by me to diminish the PC as a platform my comments were complimentary had you bothered to take the time to actually read them.

          You do realize that consoles are the clones filled with advanced computer parts if it wasn’t for those computer parts you wouldn’t be playing Xbox Sony or Nintendo

          You are wrong. The closest thing to a clone PC from Sony, MS or Nintendo would have been the original Xbox, that system had a discreet CPU and GPU but even that had many elements that were customized by Microsoft. You couldn’t quite emulate the Xbox with off the shelf parts. You could get close but not exactly the same kind of configuration.

          The newest systems from MS and Sony are the next closest to a PC with the Xbox One being closer than the PS4. Both systems rid the PC architecture of anything that isn’t germane to gaming while in my opinion PS4 takes it a step further by basically creating a video card with a CPU attached.

          They are very PC like and that is a good thing for PC players as it means that more PC games will come to console and deliver more revenues to talented PC developers and more console games will come to PC. Rising tides raise all boats my friend which is why I can never really understand PC Elitism. PC gamers benefit from new generations consoles.

          one thing is directionless here and that’s you for saying ClonePC if you take away AMD and Nvidia you aren’t playing a console

          Not 100% sure what you are saying here could you repeat it in English?

          If it wasn’t for consoles AMD would be in very bad shape.

      • heavenshitman1

        I don’t think Nintendo expects GTAV fans to gravitate towards their Switch. I think Nintendo is trying to get the mass 100’s of millions that’d never touch any of these heavy duty consoles to have a shot in gaming.
        Its a crowd that doesn’t concern to quibble over MSAA and texture levels.
        Nintendo is pathetic at marketing most the time, but if you knew their best franchises well. You’d know they make some great games for adults too (,games that actually require brain power to play)

        • DarthDiggler

          @heavenshitman1:disqus

          I never excluded the rest of the family, I should have said “family friendly” instead of kids.

          By and large the market they cater to is NOT the core market though. Are you suggesting the Nintendo Switch will turn the causal Wii-Mote gamers into Hard Core gamers that go to E-Sports competitions competing against other Switch Players?

    • Yeah I get the appeal. I’m a massive fan of multiplayer games, particularly co-op. But I really can’t see myself sitting down on that tiny screen at a park or in a field to play the Switch. If i want to play games with friends I’ll invite them over, and play there. I just don’t see it, really. but maybe that’s just me?

      • heavenshitman1

        Reasonable point, might be a small device, but I guess its an added option of play, with Nintendo handhelds being about as successful as any home console it can’t do too bad sales wise. And despite your notions on Skyrim, the games library should be pretty stellar with Switch assuming Nintendo focuses all its teams on it. It’d be the only ‘home’ based console system that would have Pokemons, F-Zeros, Golden Suns, Metroids, Zeldas, ‘Advanced Wars’ games, Xenoblades… and so on.
        Despite a lack of ultimate graphical fidelity, its the kinda software that should inspire (assuming that lineup happens).
        As I alluded in my first post here, despite 6+ TFLOPS of visual power, is anyone not just sick of Call of Duty yet??
        Or what about FIFA, must be about the 20th iteration of essentially the exact same sports game from probably decades ago

      • They showed a lot of multiplayer on the smaller screen but I think you are reading too much into that. Co-op on the bigger screen will still be as relevant as every and tbh, Nintendo have produced some of the best co-op games out there.

        I don’t see the small screen co-op being a game changed but think about all the crazy moments playing on a small screen back in the day. Someone brining this out with them & challenging someone to a Mario Kart race for 20 mins would be brilliant. Not a selling point for the console but a fantastically fun extra. I think they focused way too much of the video on it though.

        Let’s say as well you did want to have people over to play Halo for example. Right now you would need at least 2 xbox’s (for 4 player) or if everyone had the xbox then 4 xbox’s. With that you will also need 4 TV so that’s 8 power sockets plus the room that will take up. That would be amazing but a lot of effort. Or you all have a Switch & you are up and playing in about 5 mins with no effort. Now that sounds great to me.

  • DarthDiggler

    They are making a push for the core marketplace. There isn’t 1 child in that promo video and they tease this unit as an E-Sports machine. Which to me seems ass backwards considering this system looks like a glorified tablet with a docking station.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/fb7534cbccd84e2fe59209e30d4bd1db643ed355a7342b033431d050aabf22e5.jpg

    • It isn’t the prettiest looking thing. But i think a handheld any bigger than conventional devices always looks a bit weird. I see what they’re doing with the size, by trying to encourage multiplayer on the device whilst on the move. It just isn’t for me, really.

      • DarthDiggler

        @alecspillik:disqus

        The ad not having any children in it seemed weird.

        Also the E-Sports thing — not going to happen IMHO. 🙂

  • DarthDiggler

    They are making a push for the core marketplace. There isn’t 1 child in that promo video and they tease this unit as an E-Sports machine. Which to me seems ass backwards considering this system looks like a glorified tablet with a docking station.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/fb7534cbccd84e2fe59209e30d4bd1db643ed355a7342b033431d050aabf22e5.jpg

    • It isn’t the prettiest looking thing. But i think a handheld any bigger than conventional devices always looks a bit weird. I see what they’re doing with the size, by trying to encourage multiplayer on the device whilst on the move. It just isn’t for me, really.

      • DarthDiggler

        @alecspillik:disqus

        The ad not having any children in it seemed weird.

        Also the E-Sports thing — not going to happen IMHO. 🙂

  • Derceto

    Sorry Nintendo. I won’t be making the “switch”. Better luck next time I guess.

  • Derceto

    Sorry Nintendo. I won’t be making the “switch”. Better luck next time I guess.

  • Brian Tomczyk

    Mr. Pollock did take the time for someone who doesn’t care about the Switch to say how he felt about it I’m a Buffalo Bills fan I’m not going to run out and say how I feel about the Dallas Cowboys because I wouldn’t care what they’re doing if you don’t care about something that’s fine that’s your choice however you look like a total idiot when you give your opinion on something you don’t care about 🙂

  • Brian Tomczyk

    Mr. Pollock did take the time for someone who doesn’t care about the Switch to say how he felt about it I’m a Buffalo Bills fan I’m not going to run out and say how I feel about the Dallas Cowboys because I wouldn’t care what they’re doing if you don’t care about something that’s fine that’s your choice however you look like a total idiot when you give your opinion on something you don’t care about 🙂

  • Brian Tomczyk

    A little link for you here Alecs when you’re comparing Switch to Xbox One that’s more powerful you say than the Switch there’s a third party PS4 developer that’s putting their games from PS4 on the Switch and its said that Switch is capable of running PS4 games which means……….. wait for it…..wait……….wait…………..SWITCH IS MORE POWERFUL THAN XBOX ONE because PS4 is more powerful than that too Xbox is finished in the console world once the Scorpio comes out they have no exclusives anymore those games are on PC which will cause it to drop sales with those PC gamers so if you have 20 million PC gamers that just had to buy an Xbox console to play those exclusive games since their games are now on PC where they look way better there’s 20 million sales they lose http://www.itechpost.com/articles/45131/20161022/nintendo-switch-rumor-ps4-third-party-game-developers-switching.htm

  • NOSQEY .

    Nintendo said the games shown are not representive of the switch capabilities,which is worrying and they claim it’a home console.It’s a handheld I don’t see what the new concept is. I think nintendo have messed up again the teaser trailer was a mistake,should have just done a direct with full details.

    • Mmmm. If there’s one thing I’ve learned about teaser trailers, it’s that they’re generally misleading. It might be interesting to see more of it as development progresses. I still don’t think it’ll be the big ‘game changer’ Nintendo are after, though

  • NOSQEY .

    Nintendo said the games shown are not representive of the switch capabilities,which is worrying and they claim it’a home console.It’s a handheld I don’t see what the new concept is. I think nintendo have messed up again the teaser trailer was a mistake,should have just done a direct with full details.

    • Mmmm. If there’s one thing I’ve learned about teaser trailers, it’s that they’re generally misleading. It might be interesting to see more of it as development progresses. I still don’t think it’ll be the big ‘game changer’ Nintendo are after, though

  • It’s a nice article Alec but I do disagree with your opinion that the Switch is for the casual gamer. If anything, this has the potential to be the more hardcore gaming platfrom. If you can run good quality games on this thing then you can game everywhere you go!

    Really depends on your definition of hardcore gamer rather than the console.

    • You’re a nice article, Alex.

      I definitely agree that it has potential. But Nintendo have tried to break out of the family / casual gamer market a few times before and they’ve never quite done it. Maybe having other publishers on board will help. But I just don’t see it taking off. Not enough to be a game changer, or revolutionary.

      • Have they tried to break out of that market since the Wii? That has been there market so it’s not something we have seen them try & fail to get away from, remember the Wii is the best selling console ever!

        This has the potential to appeal to everyone & has way wider appeal than then PS4 or Xbox One (That doesn’t mean I think it’s better). This doesn’t just have the potential to take off, but fly off the bloody shelves!

        There are kids games on the Xbox & PS4 as well but giving gamers a platform like this that does support big 3rd party games opens the console up to all gamers where as low support & poor specs reduced the WiiU to those lower spec games that were seen as more kid friendly.

  • It’s a nice article Alec but I do disagree with your opinion that the Switch is for the casual gamer. If anything, this has the potential to be the more hardcore gaming platfrom. If you can run good quality games on this thing then you can game everywhere you go!

    Really depends on your definition of hardcore gamer rather than the console.

    • You’re a nice article, Alex.

      I definitely agree that it has potential. But Nintendo have tried to break out of the family / casual gamer market a few times before and they’ve never quite done it. Maybe having other publishers on board will help. But I just don’t see it taking off. Not enough to be a game changer, or revolutionary.

      • Have they tried to break out of that market since the Wii? That has been there market so it’s not something we have seen them try & fail to get away from, remember the Wii is the best selling console ever!

        This has the potential to appeal to everyone & has way wider appeal than then PS4 or Xbox One (That doesn’t mean I think it’s better). This doesn’t just have the potential to take off, but fly off the bloody shelves!

        There are kids games on the Xbox & PS4 as well but giving gamers a platform like this that does support big 3rd party games opens the console up to all gamers where as low support & poor specs reduced the WiiU to those lower spec games that were seen as more kid friendly.

  • exmp4

    I don’t understand about the demographic “hardcore gamer” in my opinion hardcore gamer is gamer who play everything, anything genre of video games and spent all his time on video games, not just if you play violence games you can called hardcore, btw when I saw the NS video nintendo is trying to chatter more to younger audience who always busy and a lot of traveling and of course nintendo trying emphasis more on e-sport , is a good sign

  • exmp4

    I don’t understand about the demographic “hardcore gamer” in my opinion hardcore gamer is gamer who play everything, anything genre of video games and spent all his time on video games, not just if you play violence games you can called hardcore, btw when I saw the NS video nintendo is trying to chatter more to younger audience who always busy and a lot of traveling and of course nintendo trying emphasis more on e-sport , is a good sign

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  • Fear Monkey

    I agree with Alecs, I find the switch Meh, but have a feeling its going to have some tricks up its sleeve we don’t know about yet. Nintendo could still surprise us.
    I havent owned a Nintendo console since the N64, but keep wanting Nintendo to wow me, and have been disappointed for a long time now.

    After playing Robot Rescue on PSVR’s PlayroomVR, THAT is what I want Nintendo to offer.

  • Fear Monkey

    I agree with Alecs, I find the switch Meh, but have a feeling its going to have some tricks up its sleeve we don’t know about yet. Nintendo could still surprise us.
    I havent owned a Nintendo console since the N64, but keep wanting Nintendo to wow me, and have been disappointed for a long time now.

    After playing Robot Rescue on PSVR’s PlayroomVR, THAT is what I want Nintendo to offer.